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How are these two optimization problems equivalent?



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Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Are these convex optimization problems equivalent?What is the dual of this optimization problem?Transform unconstrained optimization problems into constrained ones?How to show these two problems have equivalent solutionssubdifferential of $max_i=1,cdots,k x_i+frac12|x|_2^2, xin mathbbR^n$Equivalence of two definitions of polar of polytopeEquivalence and convexity in optimization problems with restrictionsEquivalence of two optimization problem?Conditions for two optimization problems to yield the same solutionConvex hull of sets in Minimax theorem










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I'm trying to show that the two problems are equivalent




Let $Bbb A = A_1, dots, A_n$ where $A_i in Bbb R^m times n$ and $bin mathbbR^m$



Then



$$min_xin mathbbR^n max_i=1, dots, k |A_ix - b|$$



is equivalent to



$$min_xin mathbbR^n space sup mid A in textconv(A_1, dots,
A_n)$$



Where $textconv$ is the convex hull.




I know that two problems are equivalent when from the solution from one you can find the solution of the other, but I'm having trouble seeing how to show this.



Anyone have any ideas?










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    I am not sure in which variable you want to minimize. In $x$, in $b$ or in $(x,b)$?
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    The variable is $x$, I have edited the question for clarity.
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$begingroup$


I'm trying to show that the two problems are equivalent




Let $Bbb A = A_1, dots, A_n$ where $A_i in Bbb R^m times n$ and $bin mathbbR^m$



Then



$$min_xin mathbbR^n max_i=1, dots, k |A_ix - b|$$



is equivalent to



$$min_xin mathbbR^n space sup mid A in textconv(A_1, dots,
A_n)$$



Where $textconv$ is the convex hull.




I know that two problems are equivalent when from the solution from one you can find the solution of the other, but I'm having trouble seeing how to show this.



Anyone have any ideas?










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  • $begingroup$
    I am not sure in which variable you want to minimize. In $x$, in $b$ or in $(x,b)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Nathanael Skrepek
    Apr 8 at 12:04










  • $begingroup$
    The variable is $x$, I have edited the question for clarity.
    $endgroup$
    – Oliver G
    Apr 8 at 12:06













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$begingroup$


I'm trying to show that the two problems are equivalent




Let $Bbb A = A_1, dots, A_n$ where $A_i in Bbb R^m times n$ and $bin mathbbR^m$



Then



$$min_xin mathbbR^n max_i=1, dots, k |A_ix - b|$$



is equivalent to



$$min_xin mathbbR^n space sup mid A in textconv(A_1, dots,
A_n)$$



Where $textconv$ is the convex hull.




I know that two problems are equivalent when from the solution from one you can find the solution of the other, but I'm having trouble seeing how to show this.



Anyone have any ideas?










share|cite|improve this question











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I'm trying to show that the two problems are equivalent




Let $Bbb A = A_1, dots, A_n$ where $A_i in Bbb R^m times n$ and $bin mathbbR^m$



Then



$$min_xin mathbbR^n max_i=1, dots, k |A_ix - b|$$



is equivalent to



$$min_xin mathbbR^n space sup mid A in textconv(A_1, dots,
A_n)$$



Where $textconv$ is the convex hull.




I know that two problems are equivalent when from the solution from one you can find the solution of the other, but I'm having trouble seeing how to show this.



Anyone have any ideas?







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  • $begingroup$
    I am not sure in which variable you want to minimize. In $x$, in $b$ or in $(x,b)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Nathanael Skrepek
    Apr 8 at 12:04










  • $begingroup$
    The variable is $x$, I have edited the question for clarity.
    $endgroup$
    – Oliver G
    Apr 8 at 12:06
















  • $begingroup$
    I am not sure in which variable you want to minimize. In $x$, in $b$ or in $(x,b)$?
    $endgroup$
    – Nathanael Skrepek
    Apr 8 at 12:04










  • $begingroup$
    The variable is $x$, I have edited the question for clarity.
    $endgroup$
    – Oliver G
    Apr 8 at 12:06















$begingroup$
I am not sure in which variable you want to minimize. In $x$, in $b$ or in $(x,b)$?
$endgroup$
– Nathanael Skrepek
Apr 8 at 12:04




$begingroup$
I am not sure in which variable you want to minimize. In $x$, in $b$ or in $(x,b)$?
$endgroup$
– Nathanael Skrepek
Apr 8 at 12:04












$begingroup$
The variable is $x$, I have edited the question for clarity.
$endgroup$
– Oliver G
Apr 8 at 12:06




$begingroup$
The variable is $x$, I have edited the question for clarity.
$endgroup$
– Oliver G
Apr 8 at 12:06










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Note that every element in $Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k)$ can be written as $A = sum_i=1^n lambda_i A_i$, where $lambda_iin [0,1]$ and $sum_i=1 lambda_i = 1$. In particular we also have $b = sum_i=1 lambda_i b$. Consequently we obtain the following inequality
beginalign
|Ax - b| &= Big|sum_i=1^n lambda_i A_i x -sum_i=1^n lambda_i bBig|
=Big|sum_i=1^n lambda_i(A_ix-b)Big| leq sum_i=1^n lambda_i|A_i x-b|\
&leq sum_i=1^n lambda_i max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b| = max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|
endalign

for arbitrary $xin mathbbR^n$ and $bin mathbbR^m$.
One immediate consequence is
$$
sup_Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k) |Ax - b| leq max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|.
$$

On the other hand since every $A_i in operatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k)$ we also have
$$
sup_Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k) |Ax - b| geq max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|.
$$

Hence, we have equality. Clearly this won't change if we minimize over $xin mathbbR^n$.



So this has nothing to do with the minimization problem. In fact this is the key essence of the simplex algorithm.






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    $begingroup$

    Note that every element in $Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k)$ can be written as $A = sum_i=1^n lambda_i A_i$, where $lambda_iin [0,1]$ and $sum_i=1 lambda_i = 1$. In particular we also have $b = sum_i=1 lambda_i b$. Consequently we obtain the following inequality
    beginalign
    |Ax - b| &= Big|sum_i=1^n lambda_i A_i x -sum_i=1^n lambda_i bBig|
    =Big|sum_i=1^n lambda_i(A_ix-b)Big| leq sum_i=1^n lambda_i|A_i x-b|\
    &leq sum_i=1^n lambda_i max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b| = max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|
    endalign

    for arbitrary $xin mathbbR^n$ and $bin mathbbR^m$.
    One immediate consequence is
    $$
    sup_Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k) |Ax - b| leq max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|.
    $$

    On the other hand since every $A_i in operatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k)$ we also have
    $$
    sup_Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k) |Ax - b| geq max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|.
    $$

    Hence, we have equality. Clearly this won't change if we minimize over $xin mathbbR^n$.



    So this has nothing to do with the minimization problem. In fact this is the key essence of the simplex algorithm.






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      $begingroup$

      Note that every element in $Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k)$ can be written as $A = sum_i=1^n lambda_i A_i$, where $lambda_iin [0,1]$ and $sum_i=1 lambda_i = 1$. In particular we also have $b = sum_i=1 lambda_i b$. Consequently we obtain the following inequality
      beginalign
      |Ax - b| &= Big|sum_i=1^n lambda_i A_i x -sum_i=1^n lambda_i bBig|
      =Big|sum_i=1^n lambda_i(A_ix-b)Big| leq sum_i=1^n lambda_i|A_i x-b|\
      &leq sum_i=1^n lambda_i max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b| = max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|
      endalign

      for arbitrary $xin mathbbR^n$ and $bin mathbbR^m$.
      One immediate consequence is
      $$
      sup_Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k) |Ax - b| leq max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|.
      $$

      On the other hand since every $A_i in operatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k)$ we also have
      $$
      sup_Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k) |Ax - b| geq max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|.
      $$

      Hence, we have equality. Clearly this won't change if we minimize over $xin mathbbR^n$.



      So this has nothing to do with the minimization problem. In fact this is the key essence of the simplex algorithm.






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        $begingroup$

        Note that every element in $Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k)$ can be written as $A = sum_i=1^n lambda_i A_i$, where $lambda_iin [0,1]$ and $sum_i=1 lambda_i = 1$. In particular we also have $b = sum_i=1 lambda_i b$. Consequently we obtain the following inequality
        beginalign
        |Ax - b| &= Big|sum_i=1^n lambda_i A_i x -sum_i=1^n lambda_i bBig|
        =Big|sum_i=1^n lambda_i(A_ix-b)Big| leq sum_i=1^n lambda_i|A_i x-b|\
        &leq sum_i=1^n lambda_i max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b| = max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|
        endalign

        for arbitrary $xin mathbbR^n$ and $bin mathbbR^m$.
        One immediate consequence is
        $$
        sup_Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k) |Ax - b| leq max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|.
        $$

        On the other hand since every $A_i in operatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k)$ we also have
        $$
        sup_Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k) |Ax - b| geq max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|.
        $$

        Hence, we have equality. Clearly this won't change if we minimize over $xin mathbbR^n$.



        So this has nothing to do with the minimization problem. In fact this is the key essence of the simplex algorithm.






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        Note that every element in $Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k)$ can be written as $A = sum_i=1^n lambda_i A_i$, where $lambda_iin [0,1]$ and $sum_i=1 lambda_i = 1$. In particular we also have $b = sum_i=1 lambda_i b$. Consequently we obtain the following inequality
        beginalign
        |Ax - b| &= Big|sum_i=1^n lambda_i A_i x -sum_i=1^n lambda_i bBig|
        =Big|sum_i=1^n lambda_i(A_ix-b)Big| leq sum_i=1^n lambda_i|A_i x-b|\
        &leq sum_i=1^n lambda_i max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b| = max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|
        endalign

        for arbitrary $xin mathbbR^n$ and $bin mathbbR^m$.
        One immediate consequence is
        $$
        sup_Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k) |Ax - b| leq max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|.
        $$

        On the other hand since every $A_i in operatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k)$ we also have
        $$
        sup_Ainoperatornameconv(A_1,dots,A_k) |Ax - b| geq max_i=1,dots,k|A_i x-b|.
        $$

        Hence, we have equality. Clearly this won't change if we minimize over $xin mathbbR^n$.



        So this has nothing to do with the minimization problem. In fact this is the key essence of the simplex algorithm.







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