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Analytical solution to $sqrta^2-x^2 + sqrtb^2-x^2 = sqrta^2-x^2 cdot sqrtb^2-x^2$



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Let $sqrta^2-x^2=y$. We have



$$y+sqrtb^2-a^2+y^2=ysqrtb^2-a^2+y^2,$$



$$y=(y-1)sqrtb^2-a^2+y^2.$$



Squaring, you will obtain a quartic equation, which doesn't seem to simplify.






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So, we have $$dfrac1sqrta^2-x^2+dfrac1sqrtb^2-x^2=1$$



WLOG $a^2-x^2=sin^4t, b^2-x^2=cos^4t$



$implies b^2-a^2=cos2t$



$$4a^2-4x^2=(2sin^2t)^2=(1+a^2-b^2)^2$$



$$iff4x^2=?$$






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Let $sqrta^2-x^2=y$. We have



$$y+sqrtb^2-a^2+y^2=ysqrtb^2-a^2+y^2,$$



$$y=(y-1)sqrtb^2-a^2+y^2.$$



Squaring, you will obtain a quartic equation, which doesn't seem to simplify.






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Hint:



Let $sqrta^2-x^2=y$. We have



$$y+sqrtb^2-a^2+y^2=ysqrtb^2-a^2+y^2,$$



$$y=(y-1)sqrtb^2-a^2+y^2.$$



Squaring, you will obtain a quartic equation, which doesn't seem to simplify.






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Hint:



Let $sqrta^2-x^2=y$. We have



$$y+sqrtb^2-a^2+y^2=ysqrtb^2-a^2+y^2,$$



$$y=(y-1)sqrtb^2-a^2+y^2.$$



Squaring, you will obtain a quartic equation, which doesn't seem to simplify.






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Hint:



Let $sqrta^2-x^2=y$. We have



$$y+sqrtb^2-a^2+y^2=ysqrtb^2-a^2+y^2,$$



$$y=(y-1)sqrtb^2-a^2+y^2.$$



Squaring, you will obtain a quartic equation, which doesn't seem to simplify.







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    @Uthering: it does.
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    @Uthering: it does.
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Yes, a good hint, not tried it yet. I've tried to solve quartic -- it looks very ugly, yet :/
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Yes, a good hint, not tried it yet. I've tried to solve quartic -- it looks very ugly, yet :/
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So, we have $$dfrac1sqrta^2-x^2+dfrac1sqrtb^2-x^2=1$$



WLOG $a^2-x^2=sin^4t, b^2-x^2=cos^4t$



$implies b^2-a^2=cos2t$



$$4a^2-4x^2=(2sin^2t)^2=(1+a^2-b^2)^2$$



$$iff4x^2=?$$






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    Looks very nice :) Yet, $a^2-x^2=sin^4t$ states that $a^2-x^2 in [-1,1]$ and we loose solutions. If I state that, f.e. $a^2-x^2=r^2*sin^4t$, than again terrible thing appears :/
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$begingroup$

So, we have $$dfrac1sqrta^2-x^2+dfrac1sqrtb^2-x^2=1$$



WLOG $a^2-x^2=sin^4t, b^2-x^2=cos^4t$



$implies b^2-a^2=cos2t$



$$4a^2-4x^2=(2sin^2t)^2=(1+a^2-b^2)^2$$



$$iff4x^2=?$$






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    Looks very nice :) Yet, $a^2-x^2=sin^4t$ states that $a^2-x^2 in [-1,1]$ and we loose solutions. If I state that, f.e. $a^2-x^2=r^2*sin^4t$, than again terrible thing appears :/
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So, we have $$dfrac1sqrta^2-x^2+dfrac1sqrtb^2-x^2=1$$



WLOG $a^2-x^2=sin^4t, b^2-x^2=cos^4t$



$implies b^2-a^2=cos2t$



$$4a^2-4x^2=(2sin^2t)^2=(1+a^2-b^2)^2$$



$$iff4x^2=?$$






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So, we have $$dfrac1sqrta^2-x^2+dfrac1sqrtb^2-x^2=1$$



WLOG $a^2-x^2=sin^4t, b^2-x^2=cos^4t$



$implies b^2-a^2=cos2t$



$$4a^2-4x^2=(2sin^2t)^2=(1+a^2-b^2)^2$$



$$iff4x^2=?$$







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    Looks very nice :) Yet, $a^2-x^2=sin^4t$ states that $a^2-x^2 in [-1,1]$ and we loose solutions. If I state that, f.e. $a^2-x^2=r^2*sin^4t$, than again terrible thing appears :/
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$begingroup$
Looks very nice :) Yet, $a^2-x^2=sin^4t$ states that $a^2-x^2 in [-1,1]$ and we loose solutions. If I state that, f.e. $a^2-x^2=r^2*sin^4t$, than again terrible thing appears :/
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