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Limit of matrix existence for values of x and y



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Dimension of eigenspaceJordan canonical form of a matrix for distinct eigenvaluesHow to calculate eigen values and evectors of Jordan Block matrixJordan form example clarificationRelationship Jordan Form and Rational Canonical FormReal logarithm of a real matrix?Representation of Jordan block for exponent matrixJordan Canonical form questionFinding the Jordan form of a $3times 3$ matrixDetermine the Jordan normal form of a complex matrix










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I have been given this question to answer



The Matrix$$C = beginpmatrix
1 & 7 & 1 & 3 \
7 & 1 & 1 & 3 \
1&1&7&3 \
3 &3 &3&3
endpmatrix $$



has eigenvalues: $12 ,-6, 6, 0$



$N(x,y) = xC+yI_4$



depending on $x$ and $y$ determine when $lim_kto inftyN(x,y)^k$ exists, sketch the region for $x$ and $y$



Attempt:



From class I have the following theorem




Let A be an $n$ x $n$ matrix. Then $lim_kto inftyA^k$exists if and only if



$A$ has no eigenvalue $lambda$ with $|lambda| geq1$



If $A$ has eigenvalue $lambda$ with $lambda = 1$, then all block of Jordan Canonical for $J(A)$ of the form $J_k(1)$ must have $k=1$




Using this theorem and the eigenvalues provided my attempt would be to find the region for $x$ and $y$ such that



$$|12x+y|leq1$$
$$|-6x+y|leq1$$
$$|6x+y|leq1$$
$$|0x+y|leq1$$



However I'm finding defining the region difficult so I'm uncertain if this is the correct approach










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  • $begingroup$
    To be changed into "$A$ has no eigenvalue λ with $|λ| geq 1$" (not $<$)
    $endgroup$
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    fixed, thank you
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$begingroup$


I have been given this question to answer



The Matrix$$C = beginpmatrix
1 & 7 & 1 & 3 \
7 & 1 & 1 & 3 \
1&1&7&3 \
3 &3 &3&3
endpmatrix $$



has eigenvalues: $12 ,-6, 6, 0$



$N(x,y) = xC+yI_4$



depending on $x$ and $y$ determine when $lim_kto inftyN(x,y)^k$ exists, sketch the region for $x$ and $y$



Attempt:



From class I have the following theorem




Let A be an $n$ x $n$ matrix. Then $lim_kto inftyA^k$exists if and only if



$A$ has no eigenvalue $lambda$ with $|lambda| geq1$



If $A$ has eigenvalue $lambda$ with $lambda = 1$, then all block of Jordan Canonical for $J(A)$ of the form $J_k(1)$ must have $k=1$




Using this theorem and the eigenvalues provided my attempt would be to find the region for $x$ and $y$ such that



$$|12x+y|leq1$$
$$|-6x+y|leq1$$
$$|6x+y|leq1$$
$$|0x+y|leq1$$



However I'm finding defining the region difficult so I'm uncertain if this is the correct approach










share|cite|improve this question











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  • $begingroup$
    To be changed into "$A$ has no eigenvalue λ with $|λ| geq 1$" (not $<$)
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Apr 8 at 20:53











  • $begingroup$
    fixed, thank you
    $endgroup$
    – Rito Lowe
    Apr 8 at 20:56













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$begingroup$


I have been given this question to answer



The Matrix$$C = beginpmatrix
1 & 7 & 1 & 3 \
7 & 1 & 1 & 3 \
1&1&7&3 \
3 &3 &3&3
endpmatrix $$



has eigenvalues: $12 ,-6, 6, 0$



$N(x,y) = xC+yI_4$



depending on $x$ and $y$ determine when $lim_kto inftyN(x,y)^k$ exists, sketch the region for $x$ and $y$



Attempt:



From class I have the following theorem




Let A be an $n$ x $n$ matrix. Then $lim_kto inftyA^k$exists if and only if



$A$ has no eigenvalue $lambda$ with $|lambda| geq1$



If $A$ has eigenvalue $lambda$ with $lambda = 1$, then all block of Jordan Canonical for $J(A)$ of the form $J_k(1)$ must have $k=1$




Using this theorem and the eigenvalues provided my attempt would be to find the region for $x$ and $y$ such that



$$|12x+y|leq1$$
$$|-6x+y|leq1$$
$$|6x+y|leq1$$
$$|0x+y|leq1$$



However I'm finding defining the region difficult so I'm uncertain if this is the correct approach










share|cite|improve this question











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I have been given this question to answer



The Matrix$$C = beginpmatrix
1 & 7 & 1 & 3 \
7 & 1 & 1 & 3 \
1&1&7&3 \
3 &3 &3&3
endpmatrix $$



has eigenvalues: $12 ,-6, 6, 0$



$N(x,y) = xC+yI_4$



depending on $x$ and $y$ determine when $lim_kto inftyN(x,y)^k$ exists, sketch the region for $x$ and $y$



Attempt:



From class I have the following theorem




Let A be an $n$ x $n$ matrix. Then $lim_kto inftyA^k$exists if and only if



$A$ has no eigenvalue $lambda$ with $|lambda| geq1$



If $A$ has eigenvalue $lambda$ with $lambda = 1$, then all block of Jordan Canonical for $J(A)$ of the form $J_k(1)$ must have $k=1$




Using this theorem and the eigenvalues provided my attempt would be to find the region for $x$ and $y$ such that



$$|12x+y|leq1$$
$$|-6x+y|leq1$$
$$|6x+y|leq1$$
$$|0x+y|leq1$$



However I'm finding defining the region difficult so I'm uncertain if this is the correct approach







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  • $begingroup$
    To be changed into "$A$ has no eigenvalue λ with $|λ| geq 1$" (not $<$)
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Apr 8 at 20:53











  • $begingroup$
    fixed, thank you
    $endgroup$
    – Rito Lowe
    Apr 8 at 20:56
















  • $begingroup$
    To be changed into "$A$ has no eigenvalue λ with $|λ| geq 1$" (not $<$)
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Apr 8 at 20:53











  • $begingroup$
    fixed, thank you
    $endgroup$
    – Rito Lowe
    Apr 8 at 20:56















$begingroup$
To be changed into "$A$ has no eigenvalue λ with $|λ| geq 1$" (not $<$)
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Apr 8 at 20:53





$begingroup$
To be changed into "$A$ has no eigenvalue λ with $|λ| geq 1$" (not $<$)
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Apr 8 at 20:53













$begingroup$
fixed, thank you
$endgroup$
– Rito Lowe
Apr 8 at 20:56




$begingroup$
fixed, thank you
$endgroup$
– Rito Lowe
Apr 8 at 20:56










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Your reasoning is right, with the exception that you cannot allow the eigenvalue $-1$. So you are looking at
beginalign
-1&<12x+yleq 1\
-1&<-6x+yleq 1\
-1&<6x+yleq 1\
-1&<yleq 1\
endalign

So basically you need to plot eight lines and look at the region they enclose. Lazy people like me use some graphing calculator and then Paint:



enter image description here



If you want to express this analytically you will have look at the four lines that define the green region. Then you can tell that your region is given by those $x,y$ with
beginalign
-6x+yleq1 \
12x+yleq1\
12x+y>-1\
-6x+y>-1
endalign

and we can summarize this as
beginalign
-1<-6x+yleq1\
-1<12x+yleq 1
endalign






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    $begingroup$

    Your reasoning is right, with the exception that you cannot allow the eigenvalue $-1$. So you are looking at
    beginalign
    -1&<12x+yleq 1\
    -1&<-6x+yleq 1\
    -1&<6x+yleq 1\
    -1&<yleq 1\
    endalign

    So basically you need to plot eight lines and look at the region they enclose. Lazy people like me use some graphing calculator and then Paint:



    enter image description here



    If you want to express this analytically you will have look at the four lines that define the green region. Then you can tell that your region is given by those $x,y$ with
    beginalign
    -6x+yleq1 \
    12x+yleq1\
    12x+y>-1\
    -6x+y>-1
    endalign

    and we can summarize this as
    beginalign
    -1<-6x+yleq1\
    -1<12x+yleq 1
    endalign






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      $begingroup$

      Your reasoning is right, with the exception that you cannot allow the eigenvalue $-1$. So you are looking at
      beginalign
      -1&<12x+yleq 1\
      -1&<-6x+yleq 1\
      -1&<6x+yleq 1\
      -1&<yleq 1\
      endalign

      So basically you need to plot eight lines and look at the region they enclose. Lazy people like me use some graphing calculator and then Paint:



      enter image description here



      If you want to express this analytically you will have look at the four lines that define the green region. Then you can tell that your region is given by those $x,y$ with
      beginalign
      -6x+yleq1 \
      12x+yleq1\
      12x+y>-1\
      -6x+y>-1
      endalign

      and we can summarize this as
      beginalign
      -1<-6x+yleq1\
      -1<12x+yleq 1
      endalign






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        $begingroup$

        Your reasoning is right, with the exception that you cannot allow the eigenvalue $-1$. So you are looking at
        beginalign
        -1&<12x+yleq 1\
        -1&<-6x+yleq 1\
        -1&<6x+yleq 1\
        -1&<yleq 1\
        endalign

        So basically you need to plot eight lines and look at the region they enclose. Lazy people like me use some graphing calculator and then Paint:



        enter image description here



        If you want to express this analytically you will have look at the four lines that define the green region. Then you can tell that your region is given by those $x,y$ with
        beginalign
        -6x+yleq1 \
        12x+yleq1\
        12x+y>-1\
        -6x+y>-1
        endalign

        and we can summarize this as
        beginalign
        -1<-6x+yleq1\
        -1<12x+yleq 1
        endalign






        share|cite|improve this answer









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        Your reasoning is right, with the exception that you cannot allow the eigenvalue $-1$. So you are looking at
        beginalign
        -1&<12x+yleq 1\
        -1&<-6x+yleq 1\
        -1&<6x+yleq 1\
        -1&<yleq 1\
        endalign

        So basically you need to plot eight lines and look at the region they enclose. Lazy people like me use some graphing calculator and then Paint:



        enter image description here



        If you want to express this analytically you will have look at the four lines that define the green region. Then you can tell that your region is given by those $x,y$ with
        beginalign
        -6x+yleq1 \
        12x+yleq1\
        12x+y>-1\
        -6x+y>-1
        endalign

        and we can summarize this as
        beginalign
        -1<-6x+yleq1\
        -1<12x+yleq 1
        endalign







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