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$C$ is Geometrically distributed and $N$ is Poisson distributed. What is the sum of N $C$ events?



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The question I am trying to answer is along the lines of a music store has on average 8 customers every hour ($N$ ~ Poisson(8)) and the probability of them buying a CD is 0.7. If the $i$th customer searches through $c_i$ cd's before they find one to purchase ($c_i$ ~ Geo(0.7)), what is T (the total number of cd's browsed through in an hour by N customers, excluding the purchased ones) in terms of $c_i$ and N? What is $P(T = 0)$?



So far I have identified the two distributions and since I know that each person will look through $c_i$ books before a success, I'm assuming:



$$ T = sum_i=1^N 0.7(1 - 0.7)^c_i$$



And in order to find $P(T = 0)$, I know that T will only equal zero in the case where no customers enter the store ($i = 0$), or where N customers purchase the first CD they look at ($c_i = 0$).



$$ P(T = 0) = P(N = 0) + P(T = 0 | N = n)P(N = n) $$
$$ P(T = 0) = e^-8 + sum_n=0^infty 0.7frac8^ne^-8n! $$
$$ P(T = 0) = e^-8 + 0.7$$
Am I correct? My knowledge of using/combining two distributions is non-existent so I've tried my best.










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    " probability of them buying a CD is 0.7. If the ith customer searches through ci cd's before they find one to purchase (ci ~ Geo(0.8))". Why are you having 0.7 and 0.8 at the same time?
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The question I am trying to answer is along the lines of a music store has on average 8 customers every hour ($N$ ~ Poisson(8)) and the probability of them buying a CD is 0.7. If the $i$th customer searches through $c_i$ cd's before they find one to purchase ($c_i$ ~ Geo(0.7)), what is T (the total number of cd's browsed through in an hour by N customers, excluding the purchased ones) in terms of $c_i$ and N? What is $P(T = 0)$?



So far I have identified the two distributions and since I know that each person will look through $c_i$ books before a success, I'm assuming:



$$ T = sum_i=1^N 0.7(1 - 0.7)^c_i$$



And in order to find $P(T = 0)$, I know that T will only equal zero in the case where no customers enter the store ($i = 0$), or where N customers purchase the first CD they look at ($c_i = 0$).



$$ P(T = 0) = P(N = 0) + P(T = 0 | N = n)P(N = n) $$
$$ P(T = 0) = e^-8 + sum_n=0^infty 0.7frac8^ne^-8n! $$
$$ P(T = 0) = e^-8 + 0.7$$
Am I correct? My knowledge of using/combining two distributions is non-existent so I've tried my best.










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    Could you edit the first paragraph? There seems to be some confusions.
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    Sorry, is that better?
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  • $begingroup$
    " probability of them buying a CD is 0.7. If the ith customer searches through ci cd's before they find one to purchase (ci ~ Geo(0.8))". Why are you having 0.7 and 0.8 at the same time?
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The question I am trying to answer is along the lines of a music store has on average 8 customers every hour ($N$ ~ Poisson(8)) and the probability of them buying a CD is 0.7. If the $i$th customer searches through $c_i$ cd's before they find one to purchase ($c_i$ ~ Geo(0.7)), what is T (the total number of cd's browsed through in an hour by N customers, excluding the purchased ones) in terms of $c_i$ and N? What is $P(T = 0)$?



So far I have identified the two distributions and since I know that each person will look through $c_i$ books before a success, I'm assuming:



$$ T = sum_i=1^N 0.7(1 - 0.7)^c_i$$



And in order to find $P(T = 0)$, I know that T will only equal zero in the case where no customers enter the store ($i = 0$), or where N customers purchase the first CD they look at ($c_i = 0$).



$$ P(T = 0) = P(N = 0) + P(T = 0 | N = n)P(N = n) $$
$$ P(T = 0) = e^-8 + sum_n=0^infty 0.7frac8^ne^-8n! $$
$$ P(T = 0) = e^-8 + 0.7$$
Am I correct? My knowledge of using/combining two distributions is non-existent so I've tried my best.










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The question I am trying to answer is along the lines of a music store has on average 8 customers every hour ($N$ ~ Poisson(8)) and the probability of them buying a CD is 0.7. If the $i$th customer searches through $c_i$ cd's before they find one to purchase ($c_i$ ~ Geo(0.7)), what is T (the total number of cd's browsed through in an hour by N customers, excluding the purchased ones) in terms of $c_i$ and N? What is $P(T = 0)$?



So far I have identified the two distributions and since I know that each person will look through $c_i$ books before a success, I'm assuming:



$$ T = sum_i=1^N 0.7(1 - 0.7)^c_i$$



And in order to find $P(T = 0)$, I know that T will only equal zero in the case where no customers enter the store ($i = 0$), or where N customers purchase the first CD they look at ($c_i = 0$).



$$ P(T = 0) = P(N = 0) + P(T = 0 | N = n)P(N = n) $$
$$ P(T = 0) = e^-8 + sum_n=0^infty 0.7frac8^ne^-8n! $$
$$ P(T = 0) = e^-8 + 0.7$$
Am I correct? My knowledge of using/combining two distributions is non-existent so I've tried my best.







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  • $begingroup$
    Could you edit the first paragraph? There seems to be some confusions.
    $endgroup$
    – Holding Arthur
    Apr 8 at 6:22










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry, is that better?
    $endgroup$
    – whereswally
    Apr 8 at 6:30










  • $begingroup$
    " probability of them buying a CD is 0.7. If the ith customer searches through ci cd's before they find one to purchase (ci ~ Geo(0.8))". Why are you having 0.7 and 0.8 at the same time?
    $endgroup$
    – Holding Arthur
    Apr 8 at 6:45
















  • $begingroup$
    Could you edit the first paragraph? There seems to be some confusions.
    $endgroup$
    – Holding Arthur
    Apr 8 at 6:22










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry, is that better?
    $endgroup$
    – whereswally
    Apr 8 at 6:30










  • $begingroup$
    " probability of them buying a CD is 0.7. If the ith customer searches through ci cd's before they find one to purchase (ci ~ Geo(0.8))". Why are you having 0.7 and 0.8 at the same time?
    $endgroup$
    – Holding Arthur
    Apr 8 at 6:45















$begingroup$
Could you edit the first paragraph? There seems to be some confusions.
$endgroup$
– Holding Arthur
Apr 8 at 6:22




$begingroup$
Could you edit the first paragraph? There seems to be some confusions.
$endgroup$
– Holding Arthur
Apr 8 at 6:22












$begingroup$
Sorry, is that better?
$endgroup$
– whereswally
Apr 8 at 6:30




$begingroup$
Sorry, is that better?
$endgroup$
– whereswally
Apr 8 at 6:30












$begingroup$
" probability of them buying a CD is 0.7. If the ith customer searches through ci cd's before they find one to purchase (ci ~ Geo(0.8))". Why are you having 0.7 and 0.8 at the same time?
$endgroup$
– Holding Arthur
Apr 8 at 6:45




$begingroup$
" probability of them buying a CD is 0.7. If the ith customer searches through ci cd's before they find one to purchase (ci ~ Geo(0.8))". Why are you having 0.7 and 0.8 at the same time?
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Let $Nsim Po(lambda)$ be the number of consumers in an hour.



$P(C=0)$ is the probability that all consumers (if any) who enter the store buy the first CD they see. For each of them, they buy the first CD with probability $p=0.7$. The probability of all $N$ people buying the first CD they see is $p^N$. So,
$$
P(C=0)=sum_k=0^infty e^-lambdafraclambda^kk!cdot p^k\
=e^-lambda sum_k=0^infty frac(lambda p)^kk!
=e^-lambda+lambda p=e^-lambda(1-p)\
=e^-8times 0.3=0.0907 ldots
$$

You are "almost" correct but you've made two mistakes. First you need not count $e^-8$ seperately since it is in the sum. Secondly you need to note that the probability of $n$ independent events all happening is $p^n$.






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Let $Nsim Po(lambda)$ be the number of consumers in an hour.



$P(C=0)$ is the probability that all consumers (if any) who enter the store buy the first CD they see. For each of them, they buy the first CD with probability $p=0.7$. The probability of all $N$ people buying the first CD they see is $p^N$. So,
$$
P(C=0)=sum_k=0^infty e^-lambdafraclambda^kk!cdot p^k\
=e^-lambda sum_k=0^infty frac(lambda p)^kk!
=e^-lambda+lambda p=e^-lambda(1-p)\
=e^-8times 0.3=0.0907 ldots
$$

You are "almost" correct but you've made two mistakes. First you need not count $e^-8$ seperately since it is in the sum. Secondly you need to note that the probability of $n$ independent events all happening is $p^n$.






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    @whereswally What do you mean? Are you trying to find the expected number of CDs browsed?
    $endgroup$
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$begingroup$

Let $Nsim Po(lambda)$ be the number of consumers in an hour.



$P(C=0)$ is the probability that all consumers (if any) who enter the store buy the first CD they see. For each of them, they buy the first CD with probability $p=0.7$. The probability of all $N$ people buying the first CD they see is $p^N$. So,
$$
P(C=0)=sum_k=0^infty e^-lambdafraclambda^kk!cdot p^k\
=e^-lambda sum_k=0^infty frac(lambda p)^kk!
=e^-lambda+lambda p=e^-lambda(1-p)\
=e^-8times 0.3=0.0907 ldots
$$

You are "almost" correct but you've made two mistakes. First you need not count $e^-8$ seperately since it is in the sum. Secondly you need to note that the probability of $n$ independent events all happening is $p^n$.






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    Thank you. Should my summation for the total number of CD's browsed just be N*c_i?
    $endgroup$
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    Apr 8 at 7:06










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    $endgroup$
    – Holding Arthur
    Apr 8 at 8:06













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Let $Nsim Po(lambda)$ be the number of consumers in an hour.



$P(C=0)$ is the probability that all consumers (if any) who enter the store buy the first CD they see. For each of them, they buy the first CD with probability $p=0.7$. The probability of all $N$ people buying the first CD they see is $p^N$. So,
$$
P(C=0)=sum_k=0^infty e^-lambdafraclambda^kk!cdot p^k\
=e^-lambda sum_k=0^infty frac(lambda p)^kk!
=e^-lambda+lambda p=e^-lambda(1-p)\
=e^-8times 0.3=0.0907 ldots
$$

You are "almost" correct but you've made two mistakes. First you need not count $e^-8$ seperately since it is in the sum. Secondly you need to note that the probability of $n$ independent events all happening is $p^n$.






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Let $Nsim Po(lambda)$ be the number of consumers in an hour.



$P(C=0)$ is the probability that all consumers (if any) who enter the store buy the first CD they see. For each of them, they buy the first CD with probability $p=0.7$. The probability of all $N$ people buying the first CD they see is $p^N$. So,
$$
P(C=0)=sum_k=0^infty e^-lambdafraclambda^kk!cdot p^k\
=e^-lambda sum_k=0^infty frac(lambda p)^kk!
=e^-lambda+lambda p=e^-lambda(1-p)\
=e^-8times 0.3=0.0907 ldots
$$

You are "almost" correct but you've made two mistakes. First you need not count $e^-8$ seperately since it is in the sum. Secondly you need to note that the probability of $n$ independent events all happening is $p^n$.







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  • $begingroup$
    Thank you. Should my summation for the total number of CD's browsed just be N*c_i?
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    @whereswally What do you mean? Are you trying to find the expected number of CDs browsed?
    $endgroup$
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    Apr 8 at 8:06















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Thank you. Should my summation for the total number of CD's browsed just be N*c_i?
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Thank you. Should my summation for the total number of CD's browsed just be N*c_i?
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$begingroup$
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$endgroup$
– Holding Arthur
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