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Convergence of a sequence in $mathbbR^ptimesmathbbR^q$ and $mathbbR^p+q$
The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are In
Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar ManaraTroublesome proof in Functional Analysis with dual vector spaceSequences of Rationals and IrrationalsOn the Gromov-Hausdorff distanceMonotone Convergence Theorem (for real sequences) equivalent to the Least Upper Bound Property?Proof that boundedness of continuous Real Valued functions implies CompactnessEquivalence between properties of compactness for metric spacesShow that $x in bar A$ iff there exists a sequence of elements of $A$ that converges to $x$ (In $mathbbR_usual^n$)Showing set is closed and other sets not closed.Proof that any sequence in $mathbbC^k$ converges iff each component sequence converges.Find a Cauchy sequence that doesn't $p$-converge to any rational number.
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Show that a sequence $(x_1^n,x_2^n)$ in $mathbbR^ptimesmathbbR^q$ converges to $(x_1,x_2)$ iff the same thing happens when we consider the sequence as belonging to $mathbbR^p+q$.
I am not able to understand the notations used, neither how to proceed.
Here are my beginner questions:-
- Is $(x_1^n)$ a sequence in $mathbbR^p$ ?
- Why indexing for sequencing is in superscript, instead of subscript (as is usual) ?
- Is $x_1^1$ a vector in $mathbbR^p$ ?
- How can $(x_1^n,x_2^n)$ be a sequence in $mathbbR^p+q$ ? (since it is a pair).
Also, please provide me pointers to begin the proof.
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Show that a sequence $(x_1^n,x_2^n)$ in $mathbbR^ptimesmathbbR^q$ converges to $(x_1,x_2)$ iff the same thing happens when we consider the sequence as belonging to $mathbbR^p+q$.
I am not able to understand the notations used, neither how to proceed.
Here are my beginner questions:-
- Is $(x_1^n)$ a sequence in $mathbbR^p$ ?
- Why indexing for sequencing is in superscript, instead of subscript (as is usual) ?
- Is $x_1^1$ a vector in $mathbbR^p$ ?
- How can $(x_1^n,x_2^n)$ be a sequence in $mathbbR^p+q$ ? (since it is a pair).
Also, please provide me pointers to begin the proof.
sequences-and-series metric-spaces
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Show that a sequence $(x_1^n,x_2^n)$ in $mathbbR^ptimesmathbbR^q$ converges to $(x_1,x_2)$ iff the same thing happens when we consider the sequence as belonging to $mathbbR^p+q$.
I am not able to understand the notations used, neither how to proceed.
Here are my beginner questions:-
- Is $(x_1^n)$ a sequence in $mathbbR^p$ ?
- Why indexing for sequencing is in superscript, instead of subscript (as is usual) ?
- Is $x_1^1$ a vector in $mathbbR^p$ ?
- How can $(x_1^n,x_2^n)$ be a sequence in $mathbbR^p+q$ ? (since it is a pair).
Also, please provide me pointers to begin the proof.
sequences-and-series metric-spaces
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Show that a sequence $(x_1^n,x_2^n)$ in $mathbbR^ptimesmathbbR^q$ converges to $(x_1,x_2)$ iff the same thing happens when we consider the sequence as belonging to $mathbbR^p+q$.
I am not able to understand the notations used, neither how to proceed.
Here are my beginner questions:-
- Is $(x_1^n)$ a sequence in $mathbbR^p$ ?
- Why indexing for sequencing is in superscript, instead of subscript (as is usual) ?
- Is $x_1^1$ a vector in $mathbbR^p$ ?
- How can $(x_1^n,x_2^n)$ be a sequence in $mathbbR^p+q$ ? (since it is a pair).
Also, please provide me pointers to begin the proof.
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1) Yes.
2) If you want to consider a sequence in $mathbb R^p$ it is natural to use superscripts because each element of the sequence already has coordinates. We use subscripts for the coordinates.
3)Yes
4) If $x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_p) in mathbb R^p$ and $y=(y_1,y_2,...,y_q) inmathbb R^q$ the notation $(x,y)$ is often used as an abbreviation for $(x_1,x_2,...,x_p,y_1,y_2,...,y_q)$ which is an element of $mathbb R^p+q$
For a proof use the following: if $x$ and $y$ are as above then $|(x,y)|=sqrt y$.
Hence the distance between $(x_1^n,y_1^n)$ and $(x,y)$ is $sqrt ^2$ which tends to $0$ iff both $|x_1^n-x|^2$ and $|y_1^n-y|^2$ tend to $0$.
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Thanks Sir, particularly, for the pointer.
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Yes, it is.
Because they use the subscript to separate the sequence in $Bbb R^p$ from the sequence in $Bbb R^q$. They could have used $(x_n, y_n)$, but they went for $(x_1^n, x_2^n)$. I wouldn't have made that choice myself, but ultimately it's about aesthetics, and has no actual mathematical impact.
Yes, it is (this feels like a special case of question 1.)
For any $n$, $x_1^n$ is a point in $Bbb R^p$, and as such, it can be characterised by coordinates as a $p$-tuple like $x_1^n = (x_1, 1^n, x_1, 2^n, ldots, x_1, p^n)$ (sorry about the indexing). Similarily, $x_2^n$ is a $q$-tuple. Put one after the other, and you get a $(p+q)$-tuple of coordinates, which is to say a point in $Bbb R^p+q$. Since this is done for each $n$, you get a sequence.
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Thanks for your time in explaining. Particularly, for the 4th point.
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1) Yes.
2) If you want to consider a sequence in $mathbb R^p$ it is natural to use superscripts because each element of the sequence already has coordinates. We use subscripts for the coordinates.
3)Yes
4) If $x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_p) in mathbb R^p$ and $y=(y_1,y_2,...,y_q) inmathbb R^q$ the notation $(x,y)$ is often used as an abbreviation for $(x_1,x_2,...,x_p,y_1,y_2,...,y_q)$ which is an element of $mathbb R^p+q$
For a proof use the following: if $x$ and $y$ are as above then $|(x,y)|=sqrt y$.
Hence the distance between $(x_1^n,y_1^n)$ and $(x,y)$ is $sqrt ^2$ which tends to $0$ iff both $|x_1^n-x|^2$ and $|y_1^n-y|^2$ tend to $0$.
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Thanks Sir, particularly, for the pointer.
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– spkakkar
Apr 8 at 8:36
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$begingroup$
1) Yes.
2) If you want to consider a sequence in $mathbb R^p$ it is natural to use superscripts because each element of the sequence already has coordinates. We use subscripts for the coordinates.
3)Yes
4) If $x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_p) in mathbb R^p$ and $y=(y_1,y_2,...,y_q) inmathbb R^q$ the notation $(x,y)$ is often used as an abbreviation for $(x_1,x_2,...,x_p,y_1,y_2,...,y_q)$ which is an element of $mathbb R^p+q$
For a proof use the following: if $x$ and $y$ are as above then $|(x,y)|=sqrt y$.
Hence the distance between $(x_1^n,y_1^n)$ and $(x,y)$ is $sqrt ^2$ which tends to $0$ iff both $|x_1^n-x|^2$ and $|y_1^n-y|^2$ tend to $0$.
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Thanks Sir, particularly, for the pointer.
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– spkakkar
Apr 8 at 8:36
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$begingroup$
1) Yes.
2) If you want to consider a sequence in $mathbb R^p$ it is natural to use superscripts because each element of the sequence already has coordinates. We use subscripts for the coordinates.
3)Yes
4) If $x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_p) in mathbb R^p$ and $y=(y_1,y_2,...,y_q) inmathbb R^q$ the notation $(x,y)$ is often used as an abbreviation for $(x_1,x_2,...,x_p,y_1,y_2,...,y_q)$ which is an element of $mathbb R^p+q$
For a proof use the following: if $x$ and $y$ are as above then $|(x,y)|=sqrt y$.
Hence the distance between $(x_1^n,y_1^n)$ and $(x,y)$ is $sqrt ^2$ which tends to $0$ iff both $|x_1^n-x|^2$ and $|y_1^n-y|^2$ tend to $0$.
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1) Yes.
2) If you want to consider a sequence in $mathbb R^p$ it is natural to use superscripts because each element of the sequence already has coordinates. We use subscripts for the coordinates.
3)Yes
4) If $x=(x_1,x_2,...,x_p) in mathbb R^p$ and $y=(y_1,y_2,...,y_q) inmathbb R^q$ the notation $(x,y)$ is often used as an abbreviation for $(x_1,x_2,...,x_p,y_1,y_2,...,y_q)$ which is an element of $mathbb R^p+q$
For a proof use the following: if $x$ and $y$ are as above then $|(x,y)|=sqrt y$.
Hence the distance between $(x_1^n,y_1^n)$ and $(x,y)$ is $sqrt ^2$ which tends to $0$ iff both $|x_1^n-x|^2$ and $|y_1^n-y|^2$ tend to $0$.
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answered Apr 8 at 8:30
Kavi Rama MurthyKavi Rama Murthy
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Thanks Sir, particularly, for the pointer.
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Thanks Sir, particularly, for the pointer.
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Thanks Sir, particularly, for the pointer.
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Apr 8 at 8:36
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Thanks Sir, particularly, for the pointer.
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Apr 8 at 8:36
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Yes, it is.
Because they use the subscript to separate the sequence in $Bbb R^p$ from the sequence in $Bbb R^q$. They could have used $(x_n, y_n)$, but they went for $(x_1^n, x_2^n)$. I wouldn't have made that choice myself, but ultimately it's about aesthetics, and has no actual mathematical impact.
Yes, it is (this feels like a special case of question 1.)
For any $n$, $x_1^n$ is a point in $Bbb R^p$, and as such, it can be characterised by coordinates as a $p$-tuple like $x_1^n = (x_1, 1^n, x_1, 2^n, ldots, x_1, p^n)$ (sorry about the indexing). Similarily, $x_2^n$ is a $q$-tuple. Put one after the other, and you get a $(p+q)$-tuple of coordinates, which is to say a point in $Bbb R^p+q$. Since this is done for each $n$, you get a sequence.
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Thanks for your time in explaining. Particularly, for the 4th point.
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– spkakkar
Apr 8 at 8:42
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Yes, it is.
Because they use the subscript to separate the sequence in $Bbb R^p$ from the sequence in $Bbb R^q$. They could have used $(x_n, y_n)$, but they went for $(x_1^n, x_2^n)$. I wouldn't have made that choice myself, but ultimately it's about aesthetics, and has no actual mathematical impact.
Yes, it is (this feels like a special case of question 1.)
For any $n$, $x_1^n$ is a point in $Bbb R^p$, and as such, it can be characterised by coordinates as a $p$-tuple like $x_1^n = (x_1, 1^n, x_1, 2^n, ldots, x_1, p^n)$ (sorry about the indexing). Similarily, $x_2^n$ is a $q$-tuple. Put one after the other, and you get a $(p+q)$-tuple of coordinates, which is to say a point in $Bbb R^p+q$. Since this is done for each $n$, you get a sequence.
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$begingroup$
Thanks for your time in explaining. Particularly, for the 4th point.
$endgroup$
– spkakkar
Apr 8 at 8:42
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Yes, it is.
Because they use the subscript to separate the sequence in $Bbb R^p$ from the sequence in $Bbb R^q$. They could have used $(x_n, y_n)$, but they went for $(x_1^n, x_2^n)$. I wouldn't have made that choice myself, but ultimately it's about aesthetics, and has no actual mathematical impact.
Yes, it is (this feels like a special case of question 1.)
For any $n$, $x_1^n$ is a point in $Bbb R^p$, and as such, it can be characterised by coordinates as a $p$-tuple like $x_1^n = (x_1, 1^n, x_1, 2^n, ldots, x_1, p^n)$ (sorry about the indexing). Similarily, $x_2^n$ is a $q$-tuple. Put one after the other, and you get a $(p+q)$-tuple of coordinates, which is to say a point in $Bbb R^p+q$. Since this is done for each $n$, you get a sequence.
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Yes, it is.
Because they use the subscript to separate the sequence in $Bbb R^p$ from the sequence in $Bbb R^q$. They could have used $(x_n, y_n)$, but they went for $(x_1^n, x_2^n)$. I wouldn't have made that choice myself, but ultimately it's about aesthetics, and has no actual mathematical impact.
Yes, it is (this feels like a special case of question 1.)
For any $n$, $x_1^n$ is a point in $Bbb R^p$, and as such, it can be characterised by coordinates as a $p$-tuple like $x_1^n = (x_1, 1^n, x_1, 2^n, ldots, x_1, p^n)$ (sorry about the indexing). Similarily, $x_2^n$ is a $q$-tuple. Put one after the other, and you get a $(p+q)$-tuple of coordinates, which is to say a point in $Bbb R^p+q$. Since this is done for each $n$, you get a sequence.
answered Apr 8 at 8:27
ArthurArthur
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Thanks for your time in explaining. Particularly, for the 4th point.
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Thanks for your time in explaining. Particularly, for the 4th point.
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Apr 8 at 8:42
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Thanks for your time in explaining. Particularly, for the 4th point.
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– spkakkar
Apr 8 at 8:42
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Thanks for your time in explaining. Particularly, for the 4th point.
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