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Find the interval of $a$ that makes $x^2e^ax-1gt ln x$ true.



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are In
Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar ManaraSystematically solving $ax^2+bx+c>0$ and the likeFind the absolute maximum and absolute minimum values of f on the given intervalMaximum value of the given funtion in the given intervalFind the maximum value of $xyzw$ if $x+2y+4z+8w=16$find maximum and minimum values for f(x) function on a closed intervalLinear Stability Analysis of an ODEHow can I deduce this interval on this inequality?Finding minimum of trigonometric functionFinding the 4th side of Trapezoid that makes its Area at MaximumProve there exists $xi in(-infty,a) $ such that $f'(xi)=0$.










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$$x^2e^ax-1gt ln x$$



Then $e^axgt fracln x+1x^2$



Let $f(x)=fracln x+1x^2$, then $f'(x)=frac-2ln x-1x^3$, and $f''(x)=frac6ln x+1x^4$



$-2ln x-1=0Rightarrow x=e^-frac12$



$f''(e^-frac12)=-2e^2 lt0$



Therefore it is the maximum point for $f(x)$ when $x=e^-frac12$.



Then $e^ae^frac12gt f(e^-frac12)=frace2$



Therefore $ae^-frac12gt1-ln2 Rightarrow agtsqrt e(1-ln2)$



But the answer is $agtfrace3$



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    Where did you get the awnser $frace3$? Graphing on desmos, it seems your awnser should be correct..
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    It is the question of the practice booklet. I have the answer but do not know how do they get that.
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$begingroup$


$$x^2e^ax-1gt ln x$$



Then $e^axgt fracln x+1x^2$



Let $f(x)=fracln x+1x^2$, then $f'(x)=frac-2ln x-1x^3$, and $f''(x)=frac6ln x+1x^4$



$-2ln x-1=0Rightarrow x=e^-frac12$



$f''(e^-frac12)=-2e^2 lt0$



Therefore it is the maximum point for $f(x)$ when $x=e^-frac12$.



Then $e^ae^frac12gt f(e^-frac12)=frace2$



Therefore $ae^-frac12gt1-ln2 Rightarrow agtsqrt e(1-ln2)$



But the answer is $agtfrace3$



How do they get $agt frace3$?










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This question has an open bounty worth +50
reputation from yuanming luo ending ending at 2019-04-15 08:03:10Z">in 2 days.


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If possible, present the mindset of solving this kind of problem, please.











  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Where did you get the awnser $frace3$? Graphing on desmos, it seems your awnser should be correct..
    $endgroup$
    – Justin Stevenson
    Apr 5 at 17:05










  • $begingroup$
    It is the question of the practice booklet. I have the answer but do not know how do they get that.
    $endgroup$
    – yuanming luo
    Apr 6 at 1:44










  • $begingroup$
    Or maybe it can be solved in other ways?
    $endgroup$
    – yuanming luo
    Apr 8 at 8:21










  • $begingroup$
    Do you have any idea of how to do that? Any advice will be appreciated.
    $endgroup$
    – yuanming luo
    Apr 8 at 9:10














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$begingroup$


$$x^2e^ax-1gt ln x$$



Then $e^axgt fracln x+1x^2$



Let $f(x)=fracln x+1x^2$, then $f'(x)=frac-2ln x-1x^3$, and $f''(x)=frac6ln x+1x^4$



$-2ln x-1=0Rightarrow x=e^-frac12$



$f''(e^-frac12)=-2e^2 lt0$



Therefore it is the maximum point for $f(x)$ when $x=e^-frac12$.



Then $e^ae^frac12gt f(e^-frac12)=frace2$



Therefore $ae^-frac12gt1-ln2 Rightarrow agtsqrt e(1-ln2)$



But the answer is $agtfrace3$



How do they get $agt frace3$?










share|cite|improve this question











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$$x^2e^ax-1gt ln x$$



Then $e^axgt fracln x+1x^2$



Let $f(x)=fracln x+1x^2$, then $f'(x)=frac-2ln x-1x^3$, and $f''(x)=frac6ln x+1x^4$



$-2ln x-1=0Rightarrow x=e^-frac12$



$f''(e^-frac12)=-2e^2 lt0$



Therefore it is the maximum point for $f(x)$ when $x=e^-frac12$.



Then $e^ae^frac12gt f(e^-frac12)=frace2$



Therefore $ae^-frac12gt1-ln2 Rightarrow agtsqrt e(1-ln2)$



But the answer is $agtfrace3$



How do they get $agt frace3$?







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This question has an open bounty worth +50
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One or more of the answers is exemplary and worthy of an additional bounty.


If possible, present the mindset of solving this kind of problem, please.








This question has an open bounty worth +50
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One or more of the answers is exemplary and worthy of an additional bounty.


If possible, present the mindset of solving this kind of problem, please.









  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Where did you get the awnser $frace3$? Graphing on desmos, it seems your awnser should be correct..
    $endgroup$
    – Justin Stevenson
    Apr 5 at 17:05










  • $begingroup$
    It is the question of the practice booklet. I have the answer but do not know how do they get that.
    $endgroup$
    – yuanming luo
    Apr 6 at 1:44










  • $begingroup$
    Or maybe it can be solved in other ways?
    $endgroup$
    – yuanming luo
    Apr 8 at 8:21










  • $begingroup$
    Do you have any idea of how to do that? Any advice will be appreciated.
    $endgroup$
    – yuanming luo
    Apr 8 at 9:10













  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Where did you get the awnser $frace3$? Graphing on desmos, it seems your awnser should be correct..
    $endgroup$
    – Justin Stevenson
    Apr 5 at 17:05










  • $begingroup$
    It is the question of the practice booklet. I have the answer but do not know how do they get that.
    $endgroup$
    – yuanming luo
    Apr 6 at 1:44










  • $begingroup$
    Or maybe it can be solved in other ways?
    $endgroup$
    – yuanming luo
    Apr 8 at 8:21










  • $begingroup$
    Do you have any idea of how to do that? Any advice will be appreciated.
    $endgroup$
    – yuanming luo
    Apr 8 at 9:10








1




1




$begingroup$
Where did you get the awnser $frace3$? Graphing on desmos, it seems your awnser should be correct..
$endgroup$
– Justin Stevenson
Apr 5 at 17:05




$begingroup$
Where did you get the awnser $frace3$? Graphing on desmos, it seems your awnser should be correct..
$endgroup$
– Justin Stevenson
Apr 5 at 17:05












$begingroup$
It is the question of the practice booklet. I have the answer but do not know how do they get that.
$endgroup$
– yuanming luo
Apr 6 at 1:44




$begingroup$
It is the question of the practice booklet. I have the answer but do not know how do they get that.
$endgroup$
– yuanming luo
Apr 6 at 1:44












$begingroup$
Or maybe it can be solved in other ways?
$endgroup$
– yuanming luo
Apr 8 at 8:21




$begingroup$
Or maybe it can be solved in other ways?
$endgroup$
– yuanming luo
Apr 8 at 8:21












$begingroup$
Do you have any idea of how to do that? Any advice will be appreciated.
$endgroup$
– yuanming luo
Apr 8 at 9:10





$begingroup$
Do you have any idea of how to do that? Any advice will be appreciated.
$endgroup$
– yuanming luo
Apr 8 at 9:10











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Your way of solution is wrong. If you want
$$e^ax>1+log xover x^2qquadforall>x>0tag1$$
it is not sufficient to find the maximal point $xi$ of the RHS and then to make sure that the inequality is true at this point $xi$. In fact the value $a=sqrte(1-log2)=0.505915$ you have found is too small, and the graphs of the LHS and RHS intersect for this value of $a$.



If we want $(1)$ then we can as well ask for
$$a>log(1+log x)-2log xover x=:g(x)qquadforall>x>0 .$$
When we graph $g$ we obtain the following picture:



enter image description here



There is a unique maximum at $xi:=0.56849$ (can not be computed elementarily) with $$a_*:=g(xi)=0.523596 .$$
If $a>a_*$ then the desired inequality holds for all $x>0$. Your $a=0.505915$ is transcended by $g$ in an $x$-interval of positive length. The value $a':=1over3e>0.9$ is sufficiently large, but obviously too large.






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Your way of solution is wrong. If you want
$$e^ax>1+log xover x^2qquadforall>x>0tag1$$
it is not sufficient to find the maximal point $xi$ of the RHS and then to make sure that the inequality is true at this point $xi$. In fact the value $a=sqrte(1-log2)=0.505915$ you have found is too small, and the graphs of the LHS and RHS intersect for this value of $a$.



If we want $(1)$ then we can as well ask for
$$a>log(1+log x)-2log xover x=:g(x)qquadforall>x>0 .$$
When we graph $g$ we obtain the following picture:



enter image description here



There is a unique maximum at $xi:=0.56849$ (can not be computed elementarily) with $$a_*:=g(xi)=0.523596 .$$
If $a>a_*$ then the desired inequality holds for all $x>0$. Your $a=0.505915$ is transcended by $g$ in an $x$-interval of positive length. The value $a':=1over3e>0.9$ is sufficiently large, but obviously too large.






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    So actually the answer booklet is wrong? I use my graphing calculator to do it too... Thanks with that.
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$begingroup$

Your way of solution is wrong. If you want
$$e^ax>1+log xover x^2qquadforall>x>0tag1$$
it is not sufficient to find the maximal point $xi$ of the RHS and then to make sure that the inequality is true at this point $xi$. In fact the value $a=sqrte(1-log2)=0.505915$ you have found is too small, and the graphs of the LHS and RHS intersect for this value of $a$.



If we want $(1)$ then we can as well ask for
$$a>log(1+log x)-2log xover x=:g(x)qquadforall>x>0 .$$
When we graph $g$ we obtain the following picture:



enter image description here



There is a unique maximum at $xi:=0.56849$ (can not be computed elementarily) with $$a_*:=g(xi)=0.523596 .$$
If $a>a_*$ then the desired inequality holds for all $x>0$. Your $a=0.505915$ is transcended by $g$ in an $x$-interval of positive length. The value $a':=1over3e>0.9$ is sufficiently large, but obviously too large.






share|cite|improve this answer









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    So actually the answer booklet is wrong? I use my graphing calculator to do it too... Thanks with that.
    $endgroup$
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$begingroup$

Your way of solution is wrong. If you want
$$e^ax>1+log xover x^2qquadforall>x>0tag1$$
it is not sufficient to find the maximal point $xi$ of the RHS and then to make sure that the inequality is true at this point $xi$. In fact the value $a=sqrte(1-log2)=0.505915$ you have found is too small, and the graphs of the LHS and RHS intersect for this value of $a$.



If we want $(1)$ then we can as well ask for
$$a>log(1+log x)-2log xover x=:g(x)qquadforall>x>0 .$$
When we graph $g$ we obtain the following picture:



enter image description here



There is a unique maximum at $xi:=0.56849$ (can not be computed elementarily) with $$a_*:=g(xi)=0.523596 .$$
If $a>a_*$ then the desired inequality holds for all $x>0$. Your $a=0.505915$ is transcended by $g$ in an $x$-interval of positive length. The value $a':=1over3e>0.9$ is sufficiently large, but obviously too large.






share|cite|improve this answer









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Your way of solution is wrong. If you want
$$e^ax>1+log xover x^2qquadforall>x>0tag1$$
it is not sufficient to find the maximal point $xi$ of the RHS and then to make sure that the inequality is true at this point $xi$. In fact the value $a=sqrte(1-log2)=0.505915$ you have found is too small, and the graphs of the LHS and RHS intersect for this value of $a$.



If we want $(1)$ then we can as well ask for
$$a>log(1+log x)-2log xover x=:g(x)qquadforall>x>0 .$$
When we graph $g$ we obtain the following picture:



enter image description here



There is a unique maximum at $xi:=0.56849$ (can not be computed elementarily) with $$a_*:=g(xi)=0.523596 .$$
If $a>a_*$ then the desired inequality holds for all $x>0$. Your $a=0.505915$ is transcended by $g$ in an $x$-interval of positive length. The value $a':=1over3e>0.9$ is sufficiently large, but obviously too large.







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So actually the answer booklet is wrong? I use my graphing calculator to do it too... Thanks with that.
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