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One dozen of big marbles and small marbles is 132 gram. If one big marbles is 3 gram heavier than one small marbles, then specify the possibilities of how many are the big marbles and the small marbles.



I got $x+y=12$, $ax+by=132$, and $a=3+b$
with $x$ is how many big marbles, $y$ is small marbles, $a$ and $b$ are their mass. I don't know what to do next.










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    I think your third equation should be $a=3+b$
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    Currently, the problem is underdefined. All solutions for $y=4b-32$ are viable.
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    Oh yes I made a mistake and also the question didn't ask for a define answer, but just the possibility of how many they are. I'm sorry, I translated the question on my own from another language, so I left some things.
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    I think I got it... I found that if $t$ is an integer, then $a=12+t$, $b=9+t$, $x=8-4t$, and $y=4+4t$
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One dozen of big marbles and small marbles is 132 gram. If one big marbles is 3 gram heavier than one small marbles, then specify the possibilities of how many are the big marbles and the small marbles.



I got $x+y=12$, $ax+by=132$, and $a=3+b$
with $x$ is how many big marbles, $y$ is small marbles, $a$ and $b$ are their mass. I don't know what to do next.










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    $begingroup$
    I think your third equation should be $a=3+b$
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    – Strichcoder
    Apr 6 at 3:33










  • $begingroup$
    Currently, the problem is underdefined. All solutions for $y=4b-32$ are viable.
    $endgroup$
    – Strichcoder
    Apr 6 at 3:38










  • $begingroup$
    Oh yes I made a mistake and also the question didn't ask for a define answer, but just the possibility of how many they are. I'm sorry, I translated the question on my own from another language, so I left some things.
    $endgroup$
    – Fifi12
    Apr 6 at 3:42










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    You can edit your question. Do you still need help?
    $endgroup$
    – Strichcoder
    Apr 6 at 3:44










  • $begingroup$
    I think I got it... I found that if $t$ is an integer, then $a=12+t$, $b=9+t$, $x=8-4t$, and $y=4+4t$
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One dozen of big marbles and small marbles is 132 gram. If one big marbles is 3 gram heavier than one small marbles, then specify the possibilities of how many are the big marbles and the small marbles.



I got $x+y=12$, $ax+by=132$, and $a=3+b$
with $x$ is how many big marbles, $y$ is small marbles, $a$ and $b$ are their mass. I don't know what to do next.










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One dozen of big marbles and small marbles is 132 gram. If one big marbles is 3 gram heavier than one small marbles, then specify the possibilities of how many are the big marbles and the small marbles.



I got $x+y=12$, $ax+by=132$, and $a=3+b$
with $x$ is how many big marbles, $y$ is small marbles, $a$ and $b$ are their mass. I don't know what to do next.







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    I think your third equation should be $a=3+b$
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    – Strichcoder
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  • $begingroup$
    Currently, the problem is underdefined. All solutions for $y=4b-32$ are viable.
    $endgroup$
    – Strichcoder
    Apr 6 at 3:38










  • $begingroup$
    Oh yes I made a mistake and also the question didn't ask for a define answer, but just the possibility of how many they are. I'm sorry, I translated the question on my own from another language, so I left some things.
    $endgroup$
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    You can edit your question. Do you still need help?
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    – Strichcoder
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    I think I got it... I found that if $t$ is an integer, then $a=12+t$, $b=9+t$, $x=8-4t$, and $y=4+4t$
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    – Fifi12
    Apr 6 at 4:12












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    $begingroup$
    I think your third equation should be $a=3+b$
    $endgroup$
    – Strichcoder
    Apr 6 at 3:33










  • $begingroup$
    Currently, the problem is underdefined. All solutions for $y=4b-32$ are viable.
    $endgroup$
    – Strichcoder
    Apr 6 at 3:38










  • $begingroup$
    Oh yes I made a mistake and also the question didn't ask for a define answer, but just the possibility of how many they are. I'm sorry, I translated the question on my own from another language, so I left some things.
    $endgroup$
    – Fifi12
    Apr 6 at 3:42










  • $begingroup$
    You can edit your question. Do you still need help?
    $endgroup$
    – Strichcoder
    Apr 6 at 3:44










  • $begingroup$
    I think I got it... I found that if $t$ is an integer, then $a=12+t$, $b=9+t$, $x=8-4t$, and $y=4+4t$
    $endgroup$
    – Fifi12
    Apr 6 at 4:12







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$begingroup$
I think your third equation should be $a=3+b$
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– Strichcoder
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$begingroup$
I think your third equation should be $a=3+b$
$endgroup$
– Strichcoder
Apr 6 at 3:33












$begingroup$
Currently, the problem is underdefined. All solutions for $y=4b-32$ are viable.
$endgroup$
– Strichcoder
Apr 6 at 3:38




$begingroup$
Currently, the problem is underdefined. All solutions for $y=4b-32$ are viable.
$endgroup$
– Strichcoder
Apr 6 at 3:38












$begingroup$
Oh yes I made a mistake and also the question didn't ask for a define answer, but just the possibility of how many they are. I'm sorry, I translated the question on my own from another language, so I left some things.
$endgroup$
– Fifi12
Apr 6 at 3:42




$begingroup$
Oh yes I made a mistake and also the question didn't ask for a define answer, but just the possibility of how many they are. I'm sorry, I translated the question on my own from another language, so I left some things.
$endgroup$
– Fifi12
Apr 6 at 3:42












$begingroup$
You can edit your question. Do you still need help?
$endgroup$
– Strichcoder
Apr 6 at 3:44




$begingroup$
You can edit your question. Do you still need help?
$endgroup$
– Strichcoder
Apr 6 at 3:44












$begingroup$
I think I got it... I found that if $t$ is an integer, then $a=12+t$, $b=9+t$, $x=8-4t$, and $y=4+4t$
$endgroup$
– Fifi12
Apr 6 at 4:12




$begingroup$
I think I got it... I found that if $t$ is an integer, then $a=12+t$, $b=9+t$, $x=8-4t$, and $y=4+4t$
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Let's express everything in terms of $b$. We have $a=b+3$. Putting that in the second equation gives $(b+3)x+by=132$, which is $3x+b(x+y)=132$, but from the first equation $x+y=12$, so $3x+12b=132$, so $x=44-4b$. Then $y=12-x=4b-32$.



Now, we need $xge0$, so $ble11$, and $yge0$, so $bge8$. So, $8le ble11$. Further, $x$ and $y$ need to be whole numbers, so $4b$ must be a whole number, so $b$ must be one of the 13 numbers $8,33/4,17/2,dots,11$. For each such $b$, you can use the formulas already derived to work out $x$, $y$, and $a$.



EDIT: The upshot is that $x$ can be any whole number between zero and twelve, inclusive. Then $y=12-x$, $b=11-(x/4)$, and $a=14-(x/4)$.



MORE EDIT: If you read the question to imply there must be at least one marble of each of the two types, then $x$ can be any whole number between one and eleven, inclusive (and $y,b,a$ are given by the formula above).






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    Let's express everything in terms of $b$. We have $a=b+3$. Putting that in the second equation gives $(b+3)x+by=132$, which is $3x+b(x+y)=132$, but from the first equation $x+y=12$, so $3x+12b=132$, so $x=44-4b$. Then $y=12-x=4b-32$.



    Now, we need $xge0$, so $ble11$, and $yge0$, so $bge8$. So, $8le ble11$. Further, $x$ and $y$ need to be whole numbers, so $4b$ must be a whole number, so $b$ must be one of the 13 numbers $8,33/4,17/2,dots,11$. For each such $b$, you can use the formulas already derived to work out $x$, $y$, and $a$.



    EDIT: The upshot is that $x$ can be any whole number between zero and twelve, inclusive. Then $y=12-x$, $b=11-(x/4)$, and $a=14-(x/4)$.



    MORE EDIT: If you read the question to imply there must be at least one marble of each of the two types, then $x$ can be any whole number between one and eleven, inclusive (and $y,b,a$ are given by the formula above).






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      Let's express everything in terms of $b$. We have $a=b+3$. Putting that in the second equation gives $(b+3)x+by=132$, which is $3x+b(x+y)=132$, but from the first equation $x+y=12$, so $3x+12b=132$, so $x=44-4b$. Then $y=12-x=4b-32$.



      Now, we need $xge0$, so $ble11$, and $yge0$, so $bge8$. So, $8le ble11$. Further, $x$ and $y$ need to be whole numbers, so $4b$ must be a whole number, so $b$ must be one of the 13 numbers $8,33/4,17/2,dots,11$. For each such $b$, you can use the formulas already derived to work out $x$, $y$, and $a$.



      EDIT: The upshot is that $x$ can be any whole number between zero and twelve, inclusive. Then $y=12-x$, $b=11-(x/4)$, and $a=14-(x/4)$.



      MORE EDIT: If you read the question to imply there must be at least one marble of each of the two types, then $x$ can be any whole number between one and eleven, inclusive (and $y,b,a$ are given by the formula above).






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        Let's express everything in terms of $b$. We have $a=b+3$. Putting that in the second equation gives $(b+3)x+by=132$, which is $3x+b(x+y)=132$, but from the first equation $x+y=12$, so $3x+12b=132$, so $x=44-4b$. Then $y=12-x=4b-32$.



        Now, we need $xge0$, so $ble11$, and $yge0$, so $bge8$. So, $8le ble11$. Further, $x$ and $y$ need to be whole numbers, so $4b$ must be a whole number, so $b$ must be one of the 13 numbers $8,33/4,17/2,dots,11$. For each such $b$, you can use the formulas already derived to work out $x$, $y$, and $a$.



        EDIT: The upshot is that $x$ can be any whole number between zero and twelve, inclusive. Then $y=12-x$, $b=11-(x/4)$, and $a=14-(x/4)$.



        MORE EDIT: If you read the question to imply there must be at least one marble of each of the two types, then $x$ can be any whole number between one and eleven, inclusive (and $y,b,a$ are given by the formula above).






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        Let's express everything in terms of $b$. We have $a=b+3$. Putting that in the second equation gives $(b+3)x+by=132$, which is $3x+b(x+y)=132$, but from the first equation $x+y=12$, so $3x+12b=132$, so $x=44-4b$. Then $y=12-x=4b-32$.



        Now, we need $xge0$, so $ble11$, and $yge0$, so $bge8$. So, $8le ble11$. Further, $x$ and $y$ need to be whole numbers, so $4b$ must be a whole number, so $b$ must be one of the 13 numbers $8,33/4,17/2,dots,11$. For each such $b$, you can use the formulas already derived to work out $x$, $y$, and $a$.



        EDIT: The upshot is that $x$ can be any whole number between zero and twelve, inclusive. Then $y=12-x$, $b=11-(x/4)$, and $a=14-(x/4)$.



        MORE EDIT: If you read the question to imply there must be at least one marble of each of the two types, then $x$ can be any whole number between one and eleven, inclusive (and $y,b,a$ are given by the formula above).







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