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Multiplications between four convolutions (discrete time). With partial solution.


How to sketch the following discrete time signal?understanding discrete-time convolutionDistribution of the sum of many lognormal random numbers from same distributionIs there a convolution mistake in my method?Is this solution correct? [Discrete-time signals and systems]Convolutions with differing argumentsDetermining signal response of causal systemHow to derive stochastic properties for a filtered signalComputing mean square error for linear transformMultiplications between four convolutions (discrete time).













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This part of the thesis, PAM4 signal filtering.



p - convolution noise



x - input signal (PAM4)



$$ E(p^4[n]x^2[n]) = $$



Where E - is Expected Value and p[n] = x[n]*e[n],



* - denotes convolution.



$$ =Ebigr[(sum_k^N x[n-k]e[k]sum_m^N x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^N x[n-g]e[g]sum_d^N x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$



This expression has several option of solution, but for me important two of them:



1) k=m=g=d



2) k=m, g=d, k$ne$g



Tried to get solution to part - (2



$$ Ebigr[(sum_k^Nsum_m^N x[n-k]e[k] x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^Nsum_d^N x[n-g]e[g] x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$



$$ frac1E(x^2[n])sum_k^Nsum_m^N Ebigr( x[n-k] x[n-m] e[k] e[m] x^2bigr)sum_g^Nsum_d^N Ebigr( x[n-g] x[n-d] e[d] e[g] x^2bigr) =$$



$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(sum_k^N E(e^2[k]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-k]) bigr)cdotbigr(sum_g^N E(e^2[g]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-g]) bigr) =$$



$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_k,kne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[k]) bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_g,gne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[g]) bigr) =$$



$$E(e^2[k])=E(e^2[g])=sigma_e^2$$



for every k and g



$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr) =$$



$$ frac1E(x^2[n])cdot(sigma_e^2)^2cdotbigr(E(x^4[n]) + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 bigr)^2$$



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    0












    $begingroup$


    This part of the thesis, PAM4 signal filtering.



    p - convolution noise



    x - input signal (PAM4)



    $$ E(p^4[n]x^2[n]) = $$



    Where E - is Expected Value and p[n] = x[n]*e[n],



    * - denotes convolution.



    $$ =Ebigr[(sum_k^N x[n-k]e[k]sum_m^N x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^N x[n-g]e[g]sum_d^N x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$



    This expression has several option of solution, but for me important two of them:



    1) k=m=g=d



    2) k=m, g=d, k$ne$g



    Tried to get solution to part - (2



    $$ Ebigr[(sum_k^Nsum_m^N x[n-k]e[k] x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^Nsum_d^N x[n-g]e[g] x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$



    $$ frac1E(x^2[n])sum_k^Nsum_m^N Ebigr( x[n-k] x[n-m] e[k] e[m] x^2bigr)sum_g^Nsum_d^N Ebigr( x[n-g] x[n-d] e[d] e[g] x^2bigr) =$$



    $$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(sum_k^N E(e^2[k]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-k]) bigr)cdotbigr(sum_g^N E(e^2[g]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-g]) bigr) =$$



    $$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_k,kne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[k]) bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_g,gne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[g]) bigr) =$$



    $$E(e^2[k])=E(e^2[g])=sigma_e^2$$



    for every k and g



    $$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr) =$$



    $$ frac1E(x^2[n])cdot(sigma_e^2)^2cdotbigr(E(x^4[n]) + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 bigr)^2$$



    My mentor says, that I have mistake in this solution. Maybe, someone can help?










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      $begingroup$


      This part of the thesis, PAM4 signal filtering.



      p - convolution noise



      x - input signal (PAM4)



      $$ E(p^4[n]x^2[n]) = $$



      Where E - is Expected Value and p[n] = x[n]*e[n],



      * - denotes convolution.



      $$ =Ebigr[(sum_k^N x[n-k]e[k]sum_m^N x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^N x[n-g]e[g]sum_d^N x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$



      This expression has several option of solution, but for me important two of them:



      1) k=m=g=d



      2) k=m, g=d, k$ne$g



      Tried to get solution to part - (2



      $$ Ebigr[(sum_k^Nsum_m^N x[n-k]e[k] x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^Nsum_d^N x[n-g]e[g] x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$



      $$ frac1E(x^2[n])sum_k^Nsum_m^N Ebigr( x[n-k] x[n-m] e[k] e[m] x^2bigr)sum_g^Nsum_d^N Ebigr( x[n-g] x[n-d] e[d] e[g] x^2bigr) =$$



      $$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(sum_k^N E(e^2[k]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-k]) bigr)cdotbigr(sum_g^N E(e^2[g]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-g]) bigr) =$$



      $$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_k,kne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[k]) bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_g,gne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[g]) bigr) =$$



      $$E(e^2[k])=E(e^2[g])=sigma_e^2$$



      for every k and g



      $$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr) =$$



      $$ frac1E(x^2[n])cdot(sigma_e^2)^2cdotbigr(E(x^4[n]) + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 bigr)^2$$



      My mentor says, that I have mistake in this solution. Maybe, someone can help?










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      This part of the thesis, PAM4 signal filtering.



      p - convolution noise



      x - input signal (PAM4)



      $$ E(p^4[n]x^2[n]) = $$



      Where E - is Expected Value and p[n] = x[n]*e[n],



      * - denotes convolution.



      $$ =Ebigr[(sum_k^N x[n-k]e[k]sum_m^N x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^N x[n-g]e[g]sum_d^N x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$



      This expression has several option of solution, but for me important two of them:



      1) k=m=g=d



      2) k=m, g=d, k$ne$g



      Tried to get solution to part - (2



      $$ Ebigr[(sum_k^Nsum_m^N x[n-k]e[k] x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^Nsum_d^N x[n-g]e[g] x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$



      $$ frac1E(x^2[n])sum_k^Nsum_m^N Ebigr( x[n-k] x[n-m] e[k] e[m] x^2bigr)sum_g^Nsum_d^N Ebigr( x[n-g] x[n-d] e[d] e[g] x^2bigr) =$$



      $$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(sum_k^N E(e^2[k]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-k]) bigr)cdotbigr(sum_g^N E(e^2[g]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-g]) bigr) =$$



      $$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_k,kne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[k]) bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_g,gne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[g]) bigr) =$$



      $$E(e^2[k])=E(e^2[g])=sigma_e^2$$



      for every k and g



      $$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr) =$$



      $$ frac1E(x^2[n])cdot(sigma_e^2)^2cdotbigr(E(x^4[n]) + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 bigr)^2$$



      My mentor says, that I have mistake in this solution. Maybe, someone can help?







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