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Multiplications between four convolutions (discrete time). With partial solution.
How to sketch the following discrete time signal?understanding discrete-time convolutionDistribution of the sum of many lognormal random numbers from same distributionIs there a convolution mistake in my method?Is this solution correct? [Discrete-time signals and systems]Convolutions with differing argumentsDetermining signal response of causal systemHow to derive stochastic properties for a filtered signalComputing mean square error for linear transformMultiplications between four convolutions (discrete time).
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This part of the thesis, PAM4 signal filtering.
p - convolution noise
x - input signal (PAM4)
$$ E(p^4[n]x^2[n]) = $$
Where E - is Expected Value and p[n] = x[n]*e[n],
* - denotes convolution.
$$ =Ebigr[(sum_k^N x[n-k]e[k]sum_m^N x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^N x[n-g]e[g]sum_d^N x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$
This expression has several option of solution, but for me important two of them:
1) k=m=g=d
2) k=m, g=d, k$ne$g
Tried to get solution to part - (2
$$ Ebigr[(sum_k^Nsum_m^N x[n-k]e[k] x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^Nsum_d^N x[n-g]e[g] x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])sum_k^Nsum_m^N Ebigr( x[n-k] x[n-m] e[k] e[m] x^2bigr)sum_g^Nsum_d^N Ebigr( x[n-g] x[n-d] e[d] e[g] x^2bigr) =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(sum_k^N E(e^2[k]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-k]) bigr)cdotbigr(sum_g^N E(e^2[g]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-g]) bigr) =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_k,kne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[k]) bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_g,gne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[g]) bigr) =$$
$$E(e^2[k])=E(e^2[g])=sigma_e^2$$
for every k and g
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr) =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])cdot(sigma_e^2)^2cdotbigr(E(x^4[n]) + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 bigr)^2$$
My mentor says, that I have mistake in this solution. Maybe, someone can help?
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This part of the thesis, PAM4 signal filtering.
p - convolution noise
x - input signal (PAM4)
$$ E(p^4[n]x^2[n]) = $$
Where E - is Expected Value and p[n] = x[n]*e[n],
* - denotes convolution.
$$ =Ebigr[(sum_k^N x[n-k]e[k]sum_m^N x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^N x[n-g]e[g]sum_d^N x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$
This expression has several option of solution, but for me important two of them:
1) k=m=g=d
2) k=m, g=d, k$ne$g
Tried to get solution to part - (2
$$ Ebigr[(sum_k^Nsum_m^N x[n-k]e[k] x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^Nsum_d^N x[n-g]e[g] x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])sum_k^Nsum_m^N Ebigr( x[n-k] x[n-m] e[k] e[m] x^2bigr)sum_g^Nsum_d^N Ebigr( x[n-g] x[n-d] e[d] e[g] x^2bigr) =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(sum_k^N E(e^2[k]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-k]) bigr)cdotbigr(sum_g^N E(e^2[g]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-g]) bigr) =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_k,kne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[k]) bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_g,gne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[g]) bigr) =$$
$$E(e^2[k])=E(e^2[g])=sigma_e^2$$
for every k and g
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr) =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])cdot(sigma_e^2)^2cdotbigr(E(x^4[n]) + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 bigr)^2$$
My mentor says, that I have mistake in this solution. Maybe, someone can help?
convolution signal-processing
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$begingroup$
This part of the thesis, PAM4 signal filtering.
p - convolution noise
x - input signal (PAM4)
$$ E(p^4[n]x^2[n]) = $$
Where E - is Expected Value and p[n] = x[n]*e[n],
* - denotes convolution.
$$ =Ebigr[(sum_k^N x[n-k]e[k]sum_m^N x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^N x[n-g]e[g]sum_d^N x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$
This expression has several option of solution, but for me important two of them:
1) k=m=g=d
2) k=m, g=d, k$ne$g
Tried to get solution to part - (2
$$ Ebigr[(sum_k^Nsum_m^N x[n-k]e[k] x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^Nsum_d^N x[n-g]e[g] x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])sum_k^Nsum_m^N Ebigr( x[n-k] x[n-m] e[k] e[m] x^2bigr)sum_g^Nsum_d^N Ebigr( x[n-g] x[n-d] e[d] e[g] x^2bigr) =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(sum_k^N E(e^2[k]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-k]) bigr)cdotbigr(sum_g^N E(e^2[g]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-g]) bigr) =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_k,kne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[k]) bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_g,gne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[g]) bigr) =$$
$$E(e^2[k])=E(e^2[g])=sigma_e^2$$
for every k and g
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr) =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])cdot(sigma_e^2)^2cdotbigr(E(x^4[n]) + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 bigr)^2$$
My mentor says, that I have mistake in this solution. Maybe, someone can help?
convolution signal-processing
New contributor
$endgroup$
This part of the thesis, PAM4 signal filtering.
p - convolution noise
x - input signal (PAM4)
$$ E(p^4[n]x^2[n]) = $$
Where E - is Expected Value and p[n] = x[n]*e[n],
* - denotes convolution.
$$ =Ebigr[(sum_k^N x[n-k]e[k]sum_m^N x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^N x[n-g]e[g]sum_d^N x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$
This expression has several option of solution, but for me important two of them:
1) k=m=g=d
2) k=m, g=d, k$ne$g
Tried to get solution to part - (2
$$ Ebigr[(sum_k^Nsum_m^N x[n-k]e[k] x[n-m]e[m]sum_g^Nsum_d^N x[n-g]e[g] x[n-d]e[d])x^2bigr] =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])sum_k^Nsum_m^N Ebigr( x[n-k] x[n-m] e[k] e[m] x^2bigr)sum_g^Nsum_d^N Ebigr( x[n-g] x[n-d] e[d] e[g] x^2bigr) =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(sum_k^N E(e^2[k]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-k]) bigr)cdotbigr(sum_g^N E(e^2[g]) E(x^2[n] x^2[n-g]) bigr) =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_k,kne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[k]) bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])E(e^2[0]) + sum_g,gne0^N sigma_x^4 cdot E(e^2[g]) bigr) =$$
$$E(e^2[k])=E(e^2[g])=sigma_e^2$$
for every k and g
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])bigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr)cdotbigr(E(x^4[n])cdotsigma_e^2 + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 cdot sigma_e^2 bigr) =$$
$$ frac1E(x^2[n])cdot(sigma_e^2)^2cdotbigr(E(x^4[n]) + (N-1) cdot sigma_x^4 bigr)^2$$
My mentor says, that I have mistake in this solution. Maybe, someone can help?
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